1KD-FTV ISSUES
INJECTOR SEATS LEAKING
First thing first, I have to mention the metallic sealing washers under the injectors. These washers can and they will leak at some point. This is not good since in this case → the combustion gases and residues contaminate the engine oil creating carbon soot → this soot will clog the oil pickup strainer restricting the flow of oil → which will cause oil starvation → which will kill the engine or first the turbocharger if you don’t catch it early enough!!!!! That’s why the most important is to: check the oil pick up strainer every oil change (eventually right after buying) – which is easy, since after you remove the oil drain plug you will see at least part of the strainer – and if it’s clogged or not.
Symptoms of leaking injector washers:
- clogged oil pickup strainer
- louder knocking noise from engine after cold start
- blue/grey smoke from the exhaust at first engine start – when the engine is cold
“replacing all the injector washers + all the required seals can cost approx.: $560 (if you want to have the injectors tested too → and you should, then keep another approx.: $300 for the testing)”
This issue affects mostly cars made to 2007 since Toyota used weaker injector washers in these cars which can easily leak before 200 000 km (there have been numerous cases of total engine failures because of this issue in these 2007 and older cars with less than 200 000 km). But from 2008 Toyota updated the washers + in some countries there was also a recall for this. So the good thing is: plenty of these cars do have the updated better washers already fitted. But the bad thing is: in many countries there was no recall so there can be still cars equipped with the weaker washers-mainly lower mileage cars with less than 200 000 – 150 000 km, and even the updated washers are not gonna last forever!
Why is it a good idea to preventively replace the injector washers?
The problem can be if the previous owner replaced the injectors and he either re-used the old washers or if he used aftermarket washers which can fail prematurely. So always use genuine injector washers! Now you can ask, how often you should replace these washers? Well, nobody knows when exactly these washers are gonna fail. The genuine updated washers can easily last way over 200 000 km, but as with the injectors it’s good to consider replacing them preventively. The interesting thing is that the service manual says that: you should check the valve clearances on this engine every 40 000 km. During this procedure you have to remove the injectors as well, and if you remove them then you automatically have to replace the already mentioned washers+seals on the injectors. Now, if someone removed the injectors in the past and re-used the old washers then obviously they are gonna fail prematurely. This valve clearance measuring procedure requires some disassembling, so it’s not the cheapest and that’s why I don’t think many of the owners actually do check the valve clearance every 40 000 km. On the other side, the valve clearances are usually fine at 100 000 or 150 000 km and even after that the valve clearance can be just a little bit out of spec. So checking the valve clearance is most of the time not necessary this often.
ALL IN ALL: if everyone would follow the service manual to the last word and did the valve clearance check every 40 000 km then THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUES with the injectors washers like EVER, since they have to be replaced every time you take out the injectors.
“The worst combination is when the previous owner put bad quality or even used injectors in the engine in the past + he re-used the old washers or put bad type of aftermarket washers there! And this is why after buying a used 1KD engine it is a good idea to preventively remove the injectors → have them tested even if they look fine → and replace the washers with the genuine Toyota washers. Of course if you want to spend the extra money then you can replace the injectors at the same time as well + while doing all this check the valve clearance and eventually adjust it. Obviously if you have a good proof that the previous owner already replaced the injectors and the injector washers with good quality parts, then you don’t have to do this.”
Fun fact: Toyota got rid of this issue only in the newer 150 models in 2015:
The 1GD 2.8 l diesel engine made from 2015 in LC150 has improved injector mounting – the injectors are more like externally mounted so the oil pickup strainer clogging issue is not common on these engines. It’s also because the injector rubber oil seal is mounted way upper on the injector so it’s more away from the heat-the lifetime of it is bigger, and if the washers on these injectors do start to leak, then the leak will be externally visible on the valve cover. But all in all, the injector washer lifetime should be similar on these engines too so they will last 200 000 km, but after this mileage point it’s better to replace them.
INJECTOR FAILURE
The next issue related to the injectors are the injectors themselves. They can fail even before 200 000 km and even on the newer land cruiser 150 equipped with this engine. How can they fail?
- they can be weak
- they can leak
- they can have bad spray pattern
Symptoms of bad injectors: rattling noise from engine, loss of power, jerking, limp mode-check engine light, smoke from exhaust when accelerating, bigger fuel consumption, later a misfire = constant uneven engine running
But the worst thing is that they can cause wrong combustion. Wrong combustion… keep this in mind since you will hear it later. Anyway, if you got one of the symptoms of bad injectors, then have the injectors at least tested or replace them + if your car has more than 200 000 km then it’s a very good idea to replace the injectors preventively if you want them to be reliable, efficient, and to perform as they should!
Some owners are replacing the injectors preventively every 130 000 km, 100 000 km or 150 000 km. Some mechanics recommend replacing them preventively every 100 000 km, but to be honest – this is just wasting. The most optimal is to replace them every 200 000 km with new genuine washers of course, and check the oil pan pickup screen for debris every oil change + monitor your car for weird behavior which can indicate issues with injectors like: light grey or white smoke from the exhaust, strange fuel consumption rising, jerking while driving, or bigger rattling noise from engine.
To be honest, most of these cars already have more than 200 000 km so it’s definitely a good idea to replace the injectors preventively, and if you buy a car with 300 000 km or with 400 000 km then there really is nothing to talk about. And yes, the injectors can last 300 000 km or 400 000 km but if you want them to be reliable, efficient, and to perform as they should – then replace them preventively. But of course if you want to leave the injectors there for a longer time it’s fine-it’s your choice, and maybe you will be lucky to experience no issues with them. However just keep in mind, that after 200 000 km the performance of the injectors is gonna be much weaker than it should be + the spray pattern is not gonna be great at all either + there is a higher chance that they will fail – like for example start to drip fuel.
on the next page: PISTON CRACK + BONUS ISSUES
Any chance of adding a link to the Toyota Service Bulletin about the different injectors and pistons ? It is very hard to read from the YouTube video. I have a 2006 type 1 Fortuner with 1Kd ( bought new in Thailand but brought to Australia in 2011. I believe originally was Euro2 so hopefully no piston issues. I DO tow a 1800 kg caravan in Oz….Now has 190 k km so I guess time for injector change.
I uploaded the bulletin under the article
Hi, Thanks for the advice.
Presently I have an issue with my 2013 Prado. This morning it lost power. Oil & water & temperature was fine. It looks like my No. 2 cylinder stopped working. Power is down to 15-20%
Unfortunately, timing is poor. I’m towing a small caravan from one side of Australia to the other. I’m stuck at an isolated fuel stop. The nearest town behind me is 470km and the nearest town in front of me is about 750km. I can drive at maybe 60kph and right now I have a little bit of internet. I wonder how much damage I will cause by trying to drive on 3 cylinders.
Hi
I would not recommend you to drive the car any further mainly if you don’t know the exact cause of the issue, because there is a high chance that you are gonna end up stranded with a seized and ruined engine-mainly if you plan driving that long distance.
For example, if you have a cracked piston(-with a crack on the side of the piston) and you are gonna drive the car, then because of the heat and the crack the piston expands more than it should and it can get seized a lot which is gonna damage not only the engine block but also the crank.
Also if you have a leaking injector, then that is also gonna cause a cracked piston-if its not cracked already + the excess fuel will get into the oil – and too much fuel in oil will cause a seized and ruined engine.
The only time I would maybe drive the car would be if the injector is stuck in closed position and the piston would be fine with no crack-or if the crack/hole in it would be small and not on the side. But the problem is that you can’t check this properly without looking into the cylinder, and even in that case I would not drive the car more than 100 km.
Also, if currently your issue is just a small crack in the piston or just a faulty injector then the repair is not gonna be very expensive if the other components are fine, however with driving the car you can cause bigger engine damage which is not gonna be that cheap to repair.
did they fix this with the Euro5 3.0 Diesel? 2014/ 2015? not the 2.8 model.
not completely since these engines still don’t have the newest pistons fitted and there are rare cases of piston crack even in these versions, but there is a much much smaller chance of this issue than on the older engines
the latest updated piston version for these engines was introduced in 2017 – this version should be the most durable